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    Discussion regarding the Eiffel programming language and various supporting tools.
  • Jan 16
    Re: [EXT] Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    There was a comment put on Quora (from one of the better more helpful writers) the other day about how languages that have become widespread have free licensing and those that became niche languages had restrictive licensing. Unfortunately, I can’t find the comment again. The same has happened
  • Jan 16
    Re: [EXT] Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    Well, I'm not quite happy with the licensing either, but: The programs you compile contain a lot of free/GPL code, so as per GPL your code has to be GPL as well. At least when you start to distribute your code. It seems when you pay for a license, your code does not have to be GPL. I'd like
  • Jan 15
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    I was talking of stable versions, not beta ones. Best regards, Philippe Le ven. 15 janv. 2021 à 13:29, Richard a écrit : > Eiffel Software did upload the most recent lecense versions of > Eiffelstudio to Sourceforge, so they are the most recent. > > The actual free Open
  • Jan 15
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    I think that saying that the GPL version is only used for learning and evaluation is just not understanding Free Software (like at all). I am a Free Software advocate and every software that is installed on my PC are Free Software. Why is that? Because I believe in freedom. I believe that I
  • Jan 15
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    Eiffel Software did upload the most recent lecense versions of Eiffelstudio to Sourceforge, so they are the most recent. The actual free Open Source versions remain on Sourceforge, they just have moved down on the activity list. The Sourceforge repository is https://sourceforge.net/projects/eiff
  • Jan 15
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    I think you are actually right. The last GPL I could find is v19.05 as well. Nevertheless, the points still stand and I still stand by them. :-) {friendly-smile}
  • Jan 15
    Re: [eiffel-users] Conversion tool from Eiffel 2 syntax ?
    You are talking about the "syntax_updater" tool from EiffelStudio. On Fri, Jan 15, 2021 at 1:41 AM howard.thomson wrote: > Hi all, > > I am considering the [very vague!] possibility of reviving the Intel code > generation classes from VisualEiffel, for which I have a CVS
  • Jan 15
    Conversion tool from Eiffel 2 syntax ?
    Hi all, I am considering the [very vague!] possibility of reviving the Intel code generation classes from VisualEiffel, for which I have a CVS repo from [I think] SourceForge. There was a tool to do conversion from the !! creation syntax to EIffel 3 Create equivalent, and other transformations.
  • Jan 14
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    You mention 19.11 as the last Eiffel Studio GPL version. I'm afraid that as far I've been looking there is no 19.11 on the download site. Last GPL is 19.05. Philippe Le jeu. 14 janv. 2021 à 15:27, Larry Rix a écrit : > I will chip in my two-cents worth FWIW! > >
  • Jan 14
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    I will chip in my two-cents worth FWIW! 1. I have been a chief complainer about the price of Eiffel Studio for more than a decade. Except for personal work, I had left Eiffel and ES (with regard to commercial work) off-the-plate entirely because of it. 2. Along comes the day when the price tag
  • Jan 14
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    Have had same problem. It seems that Eiffel Software has revamped their licensing scheme and de facto has no longer any Open Source version, though they publish it still on their website (eiffel.com). The version published on Sourceforge.com is urrently the production version and not the Open
  • Jan 13
    Re: [eiffel-users] Re: Issue with my EiffelStudio license
    Since I installed ES 20.11, I got problems with my license. Again. Unfortunately, the Regedit trick below does not fix the problem anymore. My account list the following (expired) license: trial License ID: **************** Owner: rosivaldo Started Mon, 20 Jan 2020 15:26:38 GMT
  • Jan 12
    RE: [eiffel-users] printing and saving from EV_RICH_TEXT
    Thanks Jocelyn I'll give that a try. R -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [eiffel-users] printing and saving from EV_RICH_TEXT From: Jocelyn Fiat Date: Tue, January 12, 2021 12:05 pm To: Eiffel Users Hi, That may be a late answer, but
  • Jan 12
    Re: [eiffel-users] printing and saving from EV_RICH_TEXT
    Hi, That may be a late answer, but for Windows, you can indeed use WEL to print the content of EV_RICH_TEXT. See the (updated) vision2 rich_text example at https://github.com/EiffelSoftware/libraries/tree/master/Src/examples/vision2/rich_text/ Especially the added code at https://github.com/Eif
  • Jan 05
    RE: Antw: [EXT] RE: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Nachricht <098701d6e2f2$03292740$097b75c0$@inf.ethz.ch>: Dear Bertrand, > ∃ and ∀ are not operators (in the sense of denoting features of some class), > but part of the syntax. I don't quite understand: If you have a Boolean function accepting two parameters, a list of items, and a
  • Jan 04
    RE: Antw: [EXT] RE: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Dear Ulrich, > After browsing the Unicode tables a bit, I wonder about these operators: > Should they all be implemented in the appropriate classes?: ∃∀∄∈∉∋∌∌⊂⊃⊄⊅⊆⊇⊈⊉⊊⊋ Indeed, class SUBSET of EiffelBase now has the basic membership and subset/superset operators as operator aliases. Not
  • Jan 04
    Re: [eiffel-users] EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Thanks. This is reassuring. I was wondering because in the past, both version was released at the same times. Louis M On 2021-01-04 10:30 a.m., Eiffel Users wrote: The GPL-licensed source code is available at https://svn.eiffel.com/eiffelstudio-public/. 19.05 is currently the latest version
  • Jan 04
    Re: [eiffel-users] EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    The GPL-licensed source code is available at https://svn.eiffel.com/eiffelstudio-public/. 19.05 is currently the latest version there, with 19.12 to follow soon. On Monday, January 4, 2021 at 1:13:44 AM UTC+1 eif...@tioui.com wrote: > Good day, > > By looking at the 20.11 release of EiffelStudi
  • Jan 04
    RE: Antw: [EXT] Re: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Vertical bar would indeed be better, but it would create a syntactical conflict (since it can be used in free operators). Backward compatibility issue. Maybe we'll find a way around the problem, but in the meantime it is the broken bar, which should not be a problem under EiffelStudio since it
  • Jan 04
    Antw: [EXT] RE: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Nachricht <04b001d6dab9$bd727c50$385774f0$@inf.ethz.ch>: > Sorry, it was meant as two hyphens approximating an em-dash “—“, my finger > slipped to the right. Actually one could read "==" as "meaning", and it would still make sense ;-) > > > > -- BM > > > > From: eiffel...@googlegr
  • Jan 04
    Antw: [EXT] Re: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Are you missing glyph appearance with glyph code? "broken bar" is "¦", "vertical line" is "󠁼", which is not "vertical bar" (ASCII code). I doubt a keyboard will have a key other than for the ASCII vertical bar. Regards, Ulrich > > Regards > Volkan > > > On 24/12/2020
  • Jan 04
    Antw: [EXT] RE: [eiffel-users] Re: EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Nachricht <041f01d6d9ea$2c038090$840a81b0$@inf.ethz.ch>: > The cited addition going back to 20.05 > > > > > Improved support for Unicode: in the search tools, in code > completion to insert Unicode symbols > > > > includes completion support in EiffelStudio making it
  • Jan 04
    Re: [eiffel-users] EiffelStudio 20.11 is now available
    Good day, By looking at the 20.11 release of EiffelStudio, I just notice that the GPL LICENCE files of the 19.05 has been replaced by a proprietary EULA. Being a free software advocate, using Free Software is extremely important for me. So is someone can confirm that Eiffel Studio still has an
  • Jan 01
    Re: Help needed re licensing
    Seems I missed the text of " include a perpetual fallback license. " on the license description and comparison page. Answers my prior question: no expiration. On Tuesday, December 29, 2020 at 3:16:48 AM UTC+1 Richard wrote: > Curious as I am I started my way thru the purchase of a Personal
  • Jan 01
    Re: window controls in vision2
    While skimming thru the threads here I see your question. A late suggestion would be that you accidentially constructed a "dialog" type of window that does not include resizing and minimizing rather than a full blown application window. >
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